Comments

   

Comment from geoff
Time November 5, 2009 at 8:12 am

Uhm… am I missing something here? didn\’t Mikey post something about how it was absolutely imperative to vote against Dede Scozzafava in NY? Did that post disappear somehow? Whitewashed, censored? Strangely, Mikey makes no mention of that whole hoopla at all here. That would have really put a feather in the cap of his argument (look: people really do support extremist GOP candidates over unpopular Democrats); otherwise it\’s all spin.

Comment from Cal
Time November 5, 2009 at 8:59 pm

I’ll be interested to see how many of the usual suspects dismiss the truth of Reagan’s arguments with comments about “daddy’s boy” or “Mikey” or my personal favorite, “bitter neocon!” Hey, if you can’t shoot the message…

Comment from Stug
Time November 6, 2009 at 9:19 am

I admit that the election results are disappointing, though not surprising, particularly for Virginia. What is surprising is that Mikey managed to write a fairly cogent column without once falling back on “when my daddy was president…”. I’m impressed.
- Best I could do Cal, did it work for you?

Comment from Cal
Time November 6, 2009 at 8:57 pm

Stug. I know it was hard for you, but yes, that worked for me! Your comment should be taken as high praise for Michael Reagan. Now if I can just get you admit Bush had some small modicum of economic success amidst the so-called “nightmare”…

I’ll just add that while the results were disappointing for you, I hope they weren’t surprising. The wave of disgust in America with spending and bailouts is palpable and it’s showing at the polls.

Comment from Stug
Time November 6, 2009 at 9:29 pm

Cal: “Now if I can just get you admit Bush had some small modicum of economic success” - Oh, I’m sure there were some, doesn’t change the overall picture though.
“The wave of disgust in America with spending and bailouts is palpable and it’s showing at the polls.”
- I disagree. Sure, nobody is terribly please that Obama had to spend billions to stave off an economic freefall, but that isn’t what’s tipping the polls. It is the unemployment levels. If unemployment were lower then as many people wouldn’t be as concerned as they are. It is to be expected. The same thing happened when Bush was first in office, though not nearly as bad because the recession wasn’t as deep. That is where part of your 52 months of job growth come from, the climb out of the 2001 recession. But the runup to the Iraq invasion was the news then, not the unemployment rate. It took about a year and a half for companies to really start hiring again then, no reason to expect that won’t be the case again now, perhaps even longer since the recession was much deeper.
It may play to the GOP’s favor though if unemployment hasn’t dropped significantly before the 2010 midterms. If it does, I’m sure that they will try to claim credit for it in spite of the fact that it will just have been fortuitous timing.

Comment from Cal
Time November 8, 2009 at 1:32 am

Stug, I’ll grant you that unemployment is playing a role. However, you like most other liberals, just don’t understand the frustration with the Right and now the Middle wrt spending. This is a VERY big hot-button issue. My oft-repeated analogy of a family in debt borrowing money to get out of debt goes right over your (collective Left) head. You think spending is necessary to (what did you say?) “stave off economic freefall” but tens of millions of your fellow Americans disagree. It isn’t some tiny number MSNBC says showed up in DC. We believe the economy would already be recovered had we just left things alone. We didn’t need TARP1 or TARP2 and we damn sure didn’t need the pork spending bill called “stimulus” that was prophesied to leave unemployment at no more than 8.x%. It’s now at 10.2% and rising in spite of the much-vaunted “stimulus” package. Can we be honest here? That “stimulus” package was a (close your eyes if you’re easily offended) liberal’s wet dream. And if you REALLY want to watch me explode, just try and tell me one more time how many jobs we’ve “saved” as a result of anything! For the umpteenth time, back in the Bush/Kerry debate days when they were slamming Bush on job creation, if Bush had said, “Under my administration we’ve saved X-thousand/million jobs” what would the reaction have been? And yet the O Team says it regularly with impunity and the mainstream media never questions them! That blows my mind!!! Jobs “saved”? Are you kidding me? How do you measure that? Can the Department of Labor confimr your assertions? Give me a freakin’ break already!

“Fortuitousness” always plays a part in elections. Had the economy stayed strong or if the Republican Party had found a real candidate to run for president in 2008, we wouldn’t be in the mess we are today and will be in two years from now. Somehow, something tells me you’ll have a slightly different take on this.

Write a comment


                               





You need to enable javascript in order to use Simple CAPTCHA.