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An Offensive Mr. Fish Cartoon Fiesta

By Daryl Cagle | June 7th, 2009 | PERMALINK
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I had lunch last week with Mr. Fish (Dwayne Booth) and we talked about why his cartoons don’t sell very well to general circulation newspapers – it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see why. Mr. Fish’s saucy cartoons appear in the L.A. Weekly and Village Voice. In fact, Fish was the last cartoonist left after the Village Voice bloodbath where they dropped every other cartoonist.

I did a speaking tour of China last year and wherever I spoke the audience asked about censorship in America – they were convinced that censorship for us was no different than in China. I explained that cartoonists in America often complain about editors killing their cartoons, but that is different from China because in China it is the government that kills the cartoons – well, not exactly, the editors and cartoonists in China know where the limits are and choose not to cross those limits. The Chinese audience would ask, “isn’t it the same in America?” I’d explain that, yes, we know what the limits are, but American cartoonists are limited by good taste rather than point of view, and if we’re too offensive we know our cartoons won’t get printed. The Chinese would respond, “same here.” I was surprised that I was always explaining what seemed to my audience to be petty differences and the hypocrisy of an American “free press.”

Which brings me back to Mr. Fish, who doesn’t censor himself for taste at all. It works for the Village Voice and L.A. Weekly, but keeps Mr. Fish’s work from being seen by a general circulation audience. I appreciate Fish’s unwillingness to compromise, so I thought I would post a selection of some of my favorite, offensive Mr. Fish cartoons that I would never have drawn myself.








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Comments

Comment from Robert Sutton Myers
Time June 7, 2009 at 11:20 am

His 2 drawing styles kinda tweak me somewhat: the New Yorker cartoon style, then the realist rendering style. Thats my only beef with Fish. Pick one or the other.
By the way, I am going to go blind trying to decipher the security codes below. Or else I need better weed.

Comment from Daniel Nowak
Time June 7, 2009 at 1:54 pm

I know I am supposed to be offend, but I can’t when they are just so god dam funny.

Comment from Amy Shropshire
Time June 7, 2009 at 2:00 pm

I agree with Daniel! And great representation too! I always say if you’re going to be offensive, be an equal opportunity offender and make fun of everyone! But you said on Twitter to leave an outraged comment…

I’m outraged that there are only 16 here! You drag me away from Twitter to see this and there’s not even a nice “round” number like 20? You should be ashamed… :P

Comment from Stephen
Time June 7, 2009 at 2:06 pm

I agree.These are too funny to be offended over.The Bambi one was clever and the toy soldier cartoon is reminiscent of the infamous Memorial Day cartoon you posted on Twitter.

Comment from jono balliett
Time June 7, 2009 at 2:07 pm

I’m outraged! Just kidding. Isn’t it interesting how people brush cartoons off as irrelevant & then all of the sudden something controversial comes out & demonstrates their true power. I admire Mr. Fish’s integrity. I don’t have what it takes to make cartoons that are that cutting & poignant. Imagine sacrificing tons of distribution and potential monetary reward just to create cartoons that are true to your ideals. Good for him.

Comment from Katie Bauer
Time June 7, 2009 at 3:40 pm

HAHAHAHA!
These are great!

Comment from Karyl Miller
Time June 7, 2009 at 5:33 pm

Fish is fabulous! Thanks, Daryl, for this small sampling.

Comment from euonymous
Time June 7, 2009 at 8:15 pm

I thought HIllary’s uterus was hilarious. Hard to be offended when there’s so much underlying truthiness here. Allow me to contribute a bumper sticker an old friend of mine had in mind: HONK IF YOU’RE WHITE We thought it was offensive, but couldn’t figure out exactly who should be offended. We decided that with any luck everyone would be offended. With respect to why Mr. Fish’s cartoons don’t sell to general circulation newspapers…. I bet that was a very funny conversation. He knows how and why the game is played.

Comment from wolverton
Time June 7, 2009 at 11:37 pm

I believe in Jesus. If he’s the kind of guy I think he is, he thinks these are hilarious!

Comment from paterson dave
Time June 8, 2009 at 8:27 am

mr fish has some anger issues. i\’m wondering if he did any cartoons relevant to the tianamen square anniversary, or if he is a running dog flack of the chinese \’pole star of evil\’.

Comment from steve d.
Time June 8, 2009 at 8:46 am

So what’s the issue? Almost as good as Mark Twain’s” Letters from the Earth!”

Comment from Michael
Time June 8, 2009 at 8:52 am

I have to admit, I didn’t get some - brain not working today I guess. But the ones I did get were hilarious. Anyway people should grow a thicker skin if they think this is too offensive to go into print.

Comment from Bull
Time June 8, 2009 at 9:18 am

Mr. Fish, as usual, picks at our wounded consciences with amazing clarity and precise targeting. I am, at once, offended and awakened, disgusted and enlightened by everything he uses to prick at the armor plating we erect to deflect genuine and open contact with other human beings. I was struck by the authenticity of the ’50s family watching the televised back of a negro’s head, which was so very indicative of the negro’s real absence on television then and the virtual invisibility of an entire race in our midst. Talking heads are readily understood; the backs of heads talking is another dimension. The image of the CIC with back turned on a serviceman and his family but sermonizing incessantly about sacrifice blows me away. Keep it up, Mr. Fish, until I laugh so much that I hurt so much I have to do more than laugh.

Comment from Magnus
Time June 8, 2009 at 9:23 am

Can we do the same cartoons about MOHAMMED?? or just about Christianity? How about lambasting BUDDHA?? or just Jesus?

Daryl you went to CHINA??? Did you write about it yet? Send the link… I want to read about your trip to China !!!!

Comment from Bill
Time June 8, 2009 at 9:37 am

It’s not censorship, why can’t you bozos figure out that if we don’t like it, we’re not going to buy it?

(Oh, that’s right, you don’t believe that anyone else has a different point of view unless their crazy and/or stupid!…)

Personally I hope fish falls into a mud puddle and drowns….

Comment from Joe Pudpounder
Time June 8, 2009 at 9:42 am

OK, OK I do have to say the bunny one was funny, but I also have to agree with magnus above. Mr. Fish hiding behind his 1st Amendment right to free speech and the press seems to have a real issue of anger that he himself is blind to. We all appreciate good humor, bbut there is no sense in visciously assailing something as dear assome people\’s relationship to Jesus Christ. I\’m Christian. Graduated from a Christian university with a minor degree in biblical studies and esearch and still laugh my ass off at good jokes regardless of language and context, but I see no reason to deliberately incite the rage of inflict pain upon others.

Now, Mr. Fish, please show you have the courage to make the same disparaging references and images of Buddah and of course everyone’s favorite so-called imaginary friend Mohammad. Fear of radical Islam\’s rage over their favorite false idol and fairy tale should not be a barrier to equal treatment and humorous battery upon all faiths, right? Fear is though, eh?

Mr. Fish, I\’ll die to protect your right to do what you do, but narcissicism can only take you so far. I\’m also sensitive to your pain from having been touched in a bad way by your own father and uncles while your mother made a video of it, but it also explains your rage. Can\’t say I\’ll pray for you, but I will continue to laugh at your stuff ocasionally.

Comment from Mary
Time June 8, 2009 at 10:03 am

What struck me about the Bambi one was that the kids at my sons\’ school really do mimic their parents\’ political beliefs right down to the insults. This morning my son said that his nine year old buddy told him our economy is collapsing and china is donating money to the US so we will be able to continue to buy the goods they manufacture. I have heard that Bush is an idiot, what have you, while driving on field trips. Sometimes I agree with what a child says but it makes me nervous that the introduction to the complex world of politics is so full of quips and broad statements based on virtually zero understanding of why such a comment would be made. I love these, by the way and Bambi was hysterical.

Comment from Zaaphod
Time June 8, 2009 at 10:15 am

I like the comment about the lack of mohammed ‘toons. When do you start lambasting the muslims? Or are you too concerned about the possibility running into an IED on the way to the porn shop or your crack dealer?

Comment from Jim
Time June 8, 2009 at 10:19 am

Mr. Fish, methinks thou dost protest too much.
Even it out a little, wouldja?
I liked the Barack Obama explaining things cartoon the best, because it is the most truthful one.
The religious slams are kind of funny, but I can see that those who follow that religion will not feel that way. Maybe Fish fears the Muslims.
And the cartoons depicting the coffins draped with flags are just too damned disrespectful. I suggest you find a better metaphor. Doing this stuff just makes you an asshole. A worthless asshole, at that.
Why not do one on Sotomayor and her Supreme Court buds dismantling the US Constitution?
Start with the 2nd Amendment and then do the rest of them. If one doesn\’t apply to the states, then none of them do. Chaos.
I see them tossing the amendments out the window, while all around them the country is in flames.
Like Nero fiddling while Rome burned.

Comment from Noor al Haqiqa
Time June 8, 2009 at 10:35 am

Cuts to the bone every time. No matter what I am writing about regarding the situation of the world, most often Palestine and the Middle East, there is a Mr. Fish toon to match the theme and bring home my point. He is quite brilliant although a tad fecally challenged at times.

He tackles things head on with a different point of view and I think it says a LOT that he is still a paid cartoonist in these tough times. Surprised the ADL has not tried to shut him up yet. They try to shut anyone up who stands for decency! And his toons on Gaza do just that.

Keep it up Mr. Fish.

Comment from wildthing
Time June 8, 2009 at 10:40 am

Good point about the self censorship of our society versus any other state. When cartoons such as this can be pointed too it shows that there are some marginalized places where anything goes as long as that is as far as it goes.
What it all shows is how little strays into the mainstream of political correctness.

It does not explain how someone in the media however can get away with calling a legal abortion murder.
Murder is a legal society defined term and impling that someone is getting away with murder is a call to vigilante action. To use that term based on your personal or religious moral beliefs is a violation of separation of church and state.
For some reason there are those that are allowed to grab the spotlight for their politically incorrect views where others self-censor themselves. Things such as “we know they have WMD’s and we know where they are!” and we need to go on the darkside and take the gloves of civilization off should not be ignored so easily…especially when they commit us to an unprovoked attack of an unarmed nation…

Comment from Ron An American Veteran
Time June 8, 2009 at 10:43 am

My name will tell you what I think of these.lol
Although fish is usually a total fucking asshole, I had to agree with every one of these.
I’ll be sending them on to some of my friends and a few of my enemies.lol

Comment from Dolph Honicker
Time June 8, 2009 at 10:45 am

I was nothing before I was born, I’ll return to nothingness when I die. Mr. Fish has his head
on straight. There have been thousands of gods. Many of us stopped believing with the
latest one.

Comment from otarri
Time June 8, 2009 at 10:49 am

It is interesting that these cartoons are posted in relation to an article on censorship.

Since Mr. Fish is presented to us an example of the the freedom of expression, should I assume he has no apparent criticism of Muslim extremists who convince teenagers to blow themselves up with the expectation that they will be rewarded for this “good” deed through the acquisition of 7 servile virgin females, or that his lack of testicular equipment causes him to self sensor?

Comment from JK
Time June 8, 2009 at 11:57 am

Speaking of bumper stickers, as euonymous does, I had one made for my wife that says HONK IF YOU’RE GAY. It seems she is a very careful driver, never exceeding the speed limit. Several times while driving on our neighborhood streets at 25 mph, young men would tailgate and honk to show their ire at her lawfulness. But she was too timid to put this on her car. I thought it would be funny for to create a dilemma for these macho boors.

Anyway, I think that Mr. Fish’s cartoons are often in bad taste, but do present one point of view. Maybe you just didn’t print any of his cartoons about Palestinians encouraging their children to blow themselves up and kill as many Israelis as possible, Muhammed urging his followers to slaughter non-believers, Saudi terrorists hoping to kill fifty or a hundred thousand people in the twin towers (where’s the little disappointed Muslim kid with his bag full of coffins empty except for a few traces of ash?), etc.

Comment from james
Time June 8, 2009 at 12:03 pm

What if first contact with an ET radio signal turns out to be an Islamic call to prayer?

Comment from ellis
Time June 8, 2009 at 12:10 pm

I suspect there are no cartoons featuring islam because mr. fish is writing primarily to people here in the u.s. who are christians.
when any other population becomes important i am sure he will skewer them as well and as nicely.

Comment from Ken
Time June 8, 2009 at 12:52 pm

I applaud the judgement of mainstream news editors who reject Mr. Fish’s poorly drawn, offensive and unfunny cartoons.

Comment from Glen Scutt
Time June 8, 2009 at 2:01 pm

Love that dying Easter Bunny !

Comment from larryj
Time June 8, 2009 at 2:26 pm

Uniformly repulsive! Anyone who likes Fish’s stuff is six bricks shy of a full hod. And, Fish himself does have serious mental issues.

Comment from William Buck
Time June 8, 2009 at 2:48 pm

Fish appears to be even-handed in his treatment of political issues, so it does seem that he should be as critical of Islamic and Jewish religious superstition as he is of the hypocritical Christian fantasies that are cynically used for political manipulation of ignorant simpletons. His commentary is superb, but does not go far enough.

Oh but that there were a God that could take us to an intellectual climate in which euphemisms such as Cagle’s “good taste” were not used as a mask for ideological censorship. I am at least grateful for his willingness to publish some of Fish’s art in this blog.

Comment from Malc
Time June 8, 2009 at 3:17 pm

If US papers were half as perspicacious as the Weekly and the Voice and US editorialists a quarter as good as Fish, there would be no crisis in editorial cartooning today. To actually ENJOY someone’s editorial cartoons is an increasingly rare treat.

The Menorah tank is a great image. Wish I’d thought of it.

Comment from Malc
Time June 8, 2009 at 3:23 pm

>>Saudi terrorists hoping to kill fifty or a hundred thousand people in the twin towers<<

There weren’t any, JK, just as Lee Harvey Oswald didn’t kill Kennedy. Your secret government fed you a line of bullsh*t and you bought it.

Don’t blame the messenger - get out there, open your eyes find the truth.

Comment from Jay Delgado
Time June 8, 2009 at 4:35 pm

Mr. Fish and his \’art\’ doesn\’t exist any longer in my universe. <b>He is a part of \"Scroll-over\" country, now:</b>

I don\’t view his work.
I don\’t read his blog or anything he writes.
I don\’t click on any link about him.
I don\’t talk about him.
I don\’t solicit any papers that carry him.

<i>He is free to explore any perversity or blasphemous theme that he chooses to.

I wish him no ill will.

Good bye, Dwayne.

You no longer exist.

~Jay

Comment from john
Time June 8, 2009 at 4:45 pm

Anger issues, and as pointed out by several others, perhaps the courage to only lampoon “safe” Christian targets.

Free speech is essential to our freedom and any type of censorship is a slippery slope, however my respect for your website just took a nosedive with the posting of these cartoons, Daryl.

Comment from monet
Time June 8, 2009 at 4:58 pm

I enjoy seeing Mr. Fish cartoons–often very creative and “saucy”–good term. You folks who think he or any cartoonist has to even it out and give equal time bashing haven’t a clue about satire. (The comment about drawing for his mostly Christian audience was on target).
OK, I know this is the worst thing EVER to ask, but can someone explain the kittens and coffins cartoon? I didn’t get it, and so want to because I like the visual incongruity.

Comment from James
Time June 8, 2009 at 5:01 pm

Pretty funny, though a bit too conservative for my tastes.

Comment from Shakes
Time June 8, 2009 at 5:20 pm

I thought these were hysterical. The comments, too; especially people who start to BAWWW over cartoonists who crack jokes regarding their religion. It’s as if their God is so small and weak and powerless that a simple joke will negate his existence, so they have to go to extreme lengths to protect their fragile idea of a deity. Come on, people; if you really believe, then you believe that God made this man and you believe that He gave him the talent and wit to make these cartoons, right? Don’t burst a vessel; Jesus is a big boy, he can take care of himself.

You won’t go to Hell if you laugh at a funny joke. We wouldn\’t have jokes if we weren\’t meant to laugh.

Comment from Ken
Time June 8, 2009 at 8:09 pm

These cartoons remind me of a street artist I believe lived in New York City. He announced on the street and had signs that said the next day he was going to drop a cement block on a mouse called “Binky.” The mouse would be on a canvas and the squished body would be the composition. The next day came around and there were hundreds of protesters screaming at him. They were yelling about cruelty to animals and similar things. He announced that Binky was not going to be killed after all. He then began walking away and the crowd began following him. Soon they began getting physically violent with him and he began running with them chasing after him. He was able to get away from them in a department store. He never intended to kill the mouse as he had rented the mouse the day before and returned it. By doing what he did he exposed the hypocrisy of the animal rights activists who obviously didn’t see anything wrong in physical violence against a human. This is why communist countries have locked up artists.

Comment from omallj
Time June 8, 2009 at 10:56 pm

Great cartoons!

Comment from ImNotBlue
Time June 9, 2009 at 10:50 am

Naturally, most people who think these cartoons are “great,” agree with the point expressed. It’s easy to think they’re “great,” when it’s not your ideas that are being criticized, attacked, smeared, insulted, or offended.

But what happens when it’s something you DISAGREE with? Well, lets look at the post just below this one… the anti-abortion comic, in reference to the Tiller murder. Oh… interesting, looks like some people don’t appreciate that quite as much.

You’re a bunch of hypocritical, left-wing asses… who can only see the world through their OWN eyes… never anybody else’s. Fish is trash… and doesn’t get published because he is offensive and rude, but most importantly, has opinions that are way outside of the mainstream. He cannot express himself in a respectful manner, and is essentially the same as the man who attempt to debate by saying, “Fuck you!”

You guys can pat yourselves on the back all you want, and tell people that you’re “open minded” all you want… but it’s a lie. Your only open when your own views are reinforced… but if it’s something other than the typical left-wing line, well… somehow that’s inappropriate.

Boo-hoo.

Comment from Lioness
Time June 10, 2009 at 10:33 am

Fish criticizes Christianity in the US and the culture here because the religion and culture here is his focus. He will push on occasion to cover events around the world which are supported by the groups he lampoons, but you don’t see him going after Fundamentalist Muslims the same way you don’t see him going after Kin Jong IL or the Russians - it’s outside the scope of his chosen field. After all, less than 2 percent of the religious people in this country are Muslims, why waste time on them when they have almost zero cultural influence here and almost no political power?

Contrary to the assertion of several posters, I do in fact read cartoons by artists who disagree with me, and although I find any number of them deplorable, I maintain my adult sensibility instead of throwing a two year old style tantrum about it and putting the site they’re on on ignore. Otherwise how would I know what the enemy (Fundamentalists of all sorts, but due to the much larger percentage here, largely the Arrogant, Self righteous, Conservative Butt Kissing, Blind, UnAmerican, Fascist, Republican Christian Fundamentalists) is up to?

if I’m pissed enough I write a comment, but I keep in mind that even the people who disagree with me have the right to express themselves. I may think any number of insulting things about them, but they still have the right. If I can’t stand it I can always go to another site to do my reading.

There have been cartoonists who work the international scene, and I rather liked a few of the Fundamentalist Muslim bashing cartoons by them.

I was rather shocked by the fact that the Muslim world fell so completely for the obvious fake inserted into the dutch cartoons by their own people. It was obvious to any thinking mind that it didn’t belong - the style was different (a photshopped image, not a cartoon) and it was also a slam at the worshipers, not the doctrines or the founder. I was also surprised that people who were trying to whip up a crowd into riots over blasphemy were willing to hypocritically create by themselves an image that was far more insulting and blasphemous than any of the cartoons could have been construed to be on their own. If you don’t know what I mean web search the issue and you may find it.

Lastly, I am saving the easter bunny one and the Jesus groundhog day to show to some friends.

Comment from swschrad
Time June 10, 2009 at 11:59 am

I am outraged at these disgusting cartoons! Mr. Fish obviously is holding back and not letting his true feelings out. isn’t an artist supposed to start from their own beliefs and experiences? this is just too much pablum for MY kids. they’re used to much worse.

Comment from Evil Do’R
Time June 11, 2009 at 7:05 am

Thanks for the laughs Mr. Fish. Some of these will make great holiday cards for my family and friends. I’m sending Joe Lie-berman the Happy Hanukkah card.

Comment from rharrold
Time June 11, 2009 at 8:21 pm

Stupid is as stupid does. You shoot from the left. Debase our Judeao-Christian Heritage. Mock our military. Puke on all that’s conservative. Make the little mid-eastern country look like the bully on the block. Trash Traditional American Values. Kiss up to fruits’n nuts and queers. And generally lick your own bullocks and you wonder why you don’t sell. See you in 2012.

Comment from Pete Wagner
Time February 13, 2010 at 7:08 pm

These are the best cartoons I’ve seen in awhile. Every cartoonist in the list to the left on this site should be doing work like this. If they were, newspapers would not be losing their readership and cartoonists would not be disappearing. It’s ironic that the Voice fired this guy, but par for the course. They will pay for dumping the few remaining cartoonists who were doing work that was fresh and hard-hitting as fewer and fewer people subscribe or even read their papers at the public library. But will they get why they are losing so much ground? NEVER. Idiot publishers and editors…

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